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	<title>Comments on: A letter from Elizabeth May</title>
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		<title>By: bluegreenblogger</title>
		<link>http://danforthgreens.ca/a-letter-from-elizabeth-may/comment-page-1/#comment-8096</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read the letter, and comments above, I agree that Elizabeth did a pretty good job winning us earned media coverage. That&#039;s why I supported her for the Leadership, because we were building the ground war, or in other words, our grassroots campaign skills, BUT we didn&#039;t have sustained media coverage throughout the campaign.
When Chernushenko got the boot, we switched one campaign element for another. Elizabeth has done little or nothing to enhance our organisation at the grassroots level. We need BOTH to succeed. We need campaign schools, canvas training, database management, etc. We also need sustained media coverage to give that ground war team something to capitalise on. IF Elizabeth used all the media she gets to constantly ask people to join the GPC, then we would be in so much better shape. Please, if you get a chance, ask her to use her strengths to build the strength of the Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read the letter, and comments above, I agree that Elizabeth did a pretty good job winning us earned media coverage. That&#8217;s why I supported her for the Leadership, because we were building the ground war, or in other words, our grassroots campaign skills, BUT we didn&#8217;t have sustained media coverage throughout the campaign.<br />
When Chernushenko got the boot, we switched one campaign element for another. Elizabeth has done little or nothing to enhance our organisation at the grassroots level. We need BOTH to succeed. We need campaign schools, canvas training, database management, etc. We also need sustained media coverage to give that ground war team something to capitalise on. IF Elizabeth used all the media she gets to constantly ask people to join the GPC, then we would be in so much better shape. Please, if you get a chance, ask her to use her strengths to build the strength of the Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Halstead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Halstead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without denying anything Ms May has said, I add this to her comment, addressed to Toronto-Danforth and posted in mid November.

There are two forces in particular that affect all political organisation, including the Green Party of Canada. One force requires that our “command structure” become more hierarchical and so less flat, more authoritarian and so less egalitarian, or in other words, more top-down and less bottom-up. The other force requires that we become more overtly partisan, in order to define ourselves more clearly with better focus, and to defend ourselves against confusion with and attacks from other partisan organisations. 

Note that the media insists that we attend to both of these forces.

Also note that much of our support has come from people who favour more of a grass-roots movement that is less partisan, not so top-down.

There are many roads from grass-roots awareness to political achievement, but all require that we remain intellectually broad-minded on the one hand and adopt a narrow authoritarian focus on the other.

The more we become like other parties, something the NDP has done over the last two decades, the less we are likely to survive as a national party, yet we may have to survive as a political party for another decade or longer.

However, Canada’s “first past the post” electoral process creates a political climate that favours two parties, not more unless they are regional.

I hope that I may raise our awareness of these forces and this dilemma without also having to conclude as to how we should proceed in order both to survive politically in Canada and to have a positive effect on Canadian environmental policy. 

However, in the absence of a better electoral process, we may have to choose between being an effective political organisation and an effective force for good.

I wish our movement great success because we have such a good intellectual command of so many critical issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without denying anything Ms May has said, I add this to her comment, addressed to Toronto-Danforth and posted in mid November.</p>
<p>There are two forces in particular that affect all political organisation, including the Green Party of Canada. One force requires that our “command structure” become more hierarchical and so less flat, more authoritarian and so less egalitarian, or in other words, more top-down and less bottom-up. The other force requires that we become more overtly partisan, in order to define ourselves more clearly with better focus, and to defend ourselves against confusion with and attacks from other partisan organisations. </p>
<p>Note that the media insists that we attend to both of these forces.</p>
<p>Also note that much of our support has come from people who favour more of a grass-roots movement that is less partisan, not so top-down.</p>
<p>There are many roads from grass-roots awareness to political achievement, but all require that we remain intellectually broad-minded on the one hand and adopt a narrow authoritarian focus on the other.</p>
<p>The more we become like other parties, something the NDP has done over the last two decades, the less we are likely to survive as a national party, yet we may have to survive as a political party for another decade or longer.</p>
<p>However, Canada’s “first past the post” electoral process creates a political climate that favours two parties, not more unless they are regional.</p>
<p>I hope that I may raise our awareness of these forces and this dilemma without also having to conclude as to how we should proceed in order both to survive politically in Canada and to have a positive effect on Canadian environmental policy. </p>
<p>However, in the absence of a better electoral process, we may have to choose between being an effective political organisation and an effective force for good.</p>
<p>I wish our movement great success because we have such a good intellectual command of so many critical issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Disenfranchised</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disenfranchised</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is condensed? This is a long, rambling half apology for the wrong offense. Elizabeth squandered the party&#039;s only hope of representation by selfishly needing to beat MacKay instead of choosing a safer riding to campaign in. It is far more important (and long overdue) for Elizabeth to share her strategy for moving forward. How does a party, completely devoid of representation move forward when we are sure to be locked out of the next debates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is condensed? This is a long, rambling half apology for the wrong offense. Elizabeth squandered the party&#8217;s only hope of representation by selfishly needing to beat MacKay instead of choosing a safer riding to campaign in. It is far more important (and long overdue) for Elizabeth to share her strategy for moving forward. How does a party, completely devoid of representation move forward when we are sure to be locked out of the next debates?</p>
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		<title>By: James Scarrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Scarrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Elizabeth did a great job during the election.  Nobody&#039;s perfect, and the media can be very tricky to manage.  We all live and learn.  I continue to support the Green Party, and Elizabeth May as leader.  Let&#039;s capitalize and move forward on the gains in popular support that have been achieved under Elizabeth&#039;s leadership!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Elizabeth did a great job during the election.  Nobody&#8217;s perfect, and the media can be very tricky to manage.  We all live and learn.  I continue to support the Green Party, and Elizabeth May as leader.  Let&#8217;s capitalize and move forward on the gains in popular support that have been achieved under Elizabeth&#8217;s leadership!</p>
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