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		<title>By: Celeste</title>
		<link>http://danforthgreens.ca/our-not-so-cozy-relationship-with-the-liberals/comment-page-1/#comment-3164</link>
		<dc:creator>Celeste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Greens do not have even one seat in parliament. This is not the same thing as a coalition government. 

Elizabeth May cannot be trusted, in my opinion, to lead AND BUILD the Green Party. During the last federal election, before she assumed the reins at the GPC, she publicly advocated &quot;strategic&quot; voting (don&#039;t vote Green if it hurts the Liberals -- never mind that strategic voting could drive a stake through the heart of the party). Lately, however, she&#039;s been saying she is against strategic voting.  Uh huh. She says she doesn&#039;t advocate it while shilling for the Liberals at every opportunity, which is sending the message to Greens to vote Liberal. She denied there were any backroom deals when she announced her candidacy in Central Nova. She said she doesn&#039;t believe in them. Then she comes up with this cockamamie backroom deal. 

This is all about Liz and the Liberals, and not what is good for the party and continuing to build it as a force to be reckoned with and a voice for the Earth  that will be heard long after she has fled the scene.

If May really wanted to get a seat in Parliament for the Green Party she would have brokered a deal for the Liberals to not run in one of the electoral districts where the Greens performed well in the last election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Greens do not have even one seat in parliament. This is not the same thing as a coalition government. </p>
<p>Elizabeth May cannot be trusted, in my opinion, to lead AND BUILD the Green Party. During the last federal election, before she assumed the reins at the GPC, she publicly advocated &#8220;strategic&#8221; voting (don&#8217;t vote Green if it hurts the Liberals &#8212; never mind that strategic voting could drive a stake through the heart of the party). Lately, however, she&#8217;s been saying she is against strategic voting.  Uh huh. She says she doesn&#8217;t advocate it while shilling for the Liberals at every opportunity, which is sending the message to Greens to vote Liberal. She denied there were any backroom deals when she announced her candidacy in Central Nova. She said she doesn&#8217;t believe in them. Then she comes up with this cockamamie backroom deal. </p>
<p>This is all about Liz and the Liberals, and not what is good for the party and continuing to build it as a force to be reckoned with and a voice for the Earth  that will be heard long after she has fled the scene.</p>
<p>If May really wanted to get a seat in Parliament for the Green Party she would have brokered a deal for the Liberals to not run in one of the electoral districts where the Greens performed well in the last election.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce McCulloch, P.Eng. MBA</title>
		<link>http://danforthgreens.ca/our-not-so-cozy-relationship-with-the-liberals/comment-page-1/#comment-3155</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce McCulloch, P.Eng. MBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Adriana Mugnatto-Hamu has said it very well. Coalition governments are a key element of the Green Party -- and so cooperation between M. Dion and Ms. May and their respective parties is very appropriate. This approach is different for us all and it will take some getting used to. I think there may be some concern about the watering down of green principles, but I went to New Glasgow to listen to Ms. May’s nomination acceptance speech, and I saw no watering of principles -- I saw true vision of what needs to be done.

When the media uses words like “cozy” in their headlines, it distorts conversation and communication (essential ingredients in any democracy) into something that it is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Adriana Mugnatto-Hamu has said it very well. Coalition governments are a key element of the Green Party &#8212; and so cooperation between M. Dion and Ms. May and their respective parties is very appropriate. This approach is different for us all and it will take some getting used to. I think there may be some concern about the watering down of green principles, but I went to New Glasgow to listen to Ms. May’s nomination acceptance speech, and I saw no watering of principles &#8212; I saw true vision of what needs to be done.</p>
<p>When the media uses words like “cozy” in their headlines, it distorts conversation and communication (essential ingredients in any democracy) into something that it is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Battershill</title>
		<link>http://danforthgreens.ca/our-not-so-cozy-relationship-with-the-liberals/comment-page-1/#comment-3146</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Battershill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth knows that free markets force people to &quot;freely&quot; look for work after they lose their jobs because capital moves to a place of lower wages. A narrow definition of &quot;efficiency&quot; forces business to lower its costs. A wider definition of &quot;efficiency&quot; factors in the psychological, family, community, societal and environmental costs of this model of so doing business. 

Father Coady&#039;s ideas seek to balance narrow economic efficiency with the broader context of business. &quot;Labour&quot; are not machines: workers have families; they worry about invasive species, drowning polar bears, the destruction of social programs, the destruction of community by invasive giant corporations like WalMart, and how climate change will increasingly harm the livelihoods of nearly everyone on Earth.  

Elizabeth&#039;s actions are based on who she is as a person, and what she correctly sees as the corrosive effects of an American style of government acting in the interests of transnational corporations to make profits without social or environmental responsiblity. People are not &quot;costs of doing business&quot;. Atlantic Canada learned this before NAFTA made Ontarians learn this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth knows that free markets force people to &#8220;freely&#8221; look for work after they lose their jobs because capital moves to a place of lower wages. A narrow definition of &#8220;efficiency&#8221; forces business to lower its costs. A wider definition of &#8220;efficiency&#8221; factors in the psychological, family, community, societal and environmental costs of this model of so doing business. </p>
<p>Father Coady&#8217;s ideas seek to balance narrow economic efficiency with the broader context of business. &#8220;Labour&#8221; are not machines: workers have families; they worry about invasive species, drowning polar bears, the destruction of social programs, the destruction of community by invasive giant corporations like WalMart, and how climate change will increasingly harm the livelihoods of nearly everyone on Earth.  </p>
<p>Elizabeth&#8217;s actions are based on who she is as a person, and what she correctly sees as the corrosive effects of an American style of government acting in the interests of transnational corporations to make profits without social or environmental responsiblity. People are not &#8220;costs of doing business&#8221;. Atlantic Canada learned this before NAFTA made Ontarians learn this.</p>
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		<title>By: Adriana Mugnatto-Hamu</title>
		<link>http://danforthgreens.ca/our-not-so-cozy-relationship-with-the-liberals/comment-page-1/#comment-3128</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriana Mugnatto-Hamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Celeste,

I confess I didn&#039;t understand your phrase &quot;how dare she&quot; until I looked at the news and realized that Elizabeth May and St&#233;phane Dion have agreed not to run candidates in each other&#039;s ridings.

I can certainly understand why that would upset you. It&#039;s a very divisive issue.

I&#039;m more afraid of a Harper majority, but I&#039;m not comfortable either with the media portrayal of a cozy relationship with the Liberals, and this obviously doesn&#039;t help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Celeste,</p>
<p>I confess I didn&#8217;t understand your phrase &#8220;how dare she&#8221; until I looked at the news and realized that Elizabeth May and St&eacute;phane Dion have agreed not to run candidates in each other&#8217;s ridings.</p>
<p>I can certainly understand why that would upset you. It&#8217;s a very divisive issue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more afraid of a Harper majority, but I&#8217;m not comfortable either with the media portrayal of a cozy relationship with the Liberals, and this obviously doesn&#8217;t help.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste</title>
		<link>http://danforthgreens.ca/our-not-so-cozy-relationship-with-the-liberals/comment-page-1/#comment-3120</link>
		<dc:creator>Celeste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Green Party of Canada is whoring itself out for no good reason and this member is disgusted. The notion of another Liberal government scares the hell out of me. And no, I am not a conservative in any way, shape, or form. Just someone who loves this planet and for a brief period of time, saw a glimmer of hope in the Green Party. No more. 

How DARE she!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Green Party of Canada is whoring itself out for no good reason and this member is disgusted. The notion of another Liberal government scares the hell out of me. And no, I am not a conservative in any way, shape, or form. Just someone who loves this planet and for a brief period of time, saw a glimmer of hope in the Green Party. No more. </p>
<p>How DARE she!</p>
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